No Summer Analyst IB Offer – Is Life Over?
After days…weeks…months of preparation, studying, practicing, and rehearsing, you are left with little more than some interview experience to show for it as you, like many others, unfortunately come up short in your pursuit of the bulge bracket investment banking summer analyst position. I’m sorry to be the one that says this (and coming from someone who sells interview and resume preparation services and offices advice on breaking into banking it might sound a bit weird), but not all of you will break into bulge bracket, elite boutique, or even solid middle market investment banking as a summer analyst – it’s just not possible. There are X number of positions at any given time and at least multiple X number of capable and qualified applicants (yes, coming from different schools, backgrounds, some better than others, etc – but still – all capable). Therefore, as much as I’d love to say that all of you will land your dream internships, many of you have already realized (with more to come) that a backup plan is necessary. Rather than just fly dark, panic, and potentially end up with nothing, I’ve put together a list of common backup options, in order of appeal to BB IB to enhance your marketability next year, when it counts most, for FT recruiting.
Boutique IB/Advisory
Before anyone attacks me for listing IB as my top option when I just got finished bracing everyone for being prepared to not get into IB, I am not talking about BB, or even MM IB, I am talking about smaller and no-name investment banking and advisory shops (typically focusing on deals <$500mm, often less than $250mm). While these shops don’t carry the prestige or hallmark of far more reputable and larger shops, it is still investment banking and regardless of deal size, the work will be the same, and skill set you acquire can be very strong. These boutiques often allow their interns and junior analysts to play larger roles on transactions and delve into a lot of modeling and analysis considering the absence of experiences resources and necessity for every member of the team to be involved. As a result of this, you will often find yourself gaining solid resume-building/enhancing experience particularly with regards to modeling and active transaction involvement. Therefore, while your shop might not be impressive by name alone, the experience that you can gain (if you work for it, of course), can definitely help your resume to be impressive.
Additionally, unlike when you strictly focus on the top shops, you are now targeting a far wider array of employers and giving yourself many new avenues to pursue – the trick is in how you pursue them. Although there are many shops of this caliber out there, unlike the BB, top boutiques and MM shops, most of these firms won’t actively post for interns on college boards, or, for that matter, even actively search for interns in general. Therefore, you will need to do your own homework and actively pursue them. In other words, get online and start hunting down these shops. Go through their websites, find contact information, recent deals, conversation points and points of interest about the shop. Additionally, you will have to be ready to showcase your talents and your skill set – essentially sell yourself with each conversation. Don’t expect it to be easy and be prepared to be told “no” many times before finding a bit of interest. With internships especially, you will need to be persistent as interns are often seen as an extravagance, or, worse, as a burden – considering they often need to teach interns everything and just when they start to be useful, they go back to school and pursue a better shop with their new skill set and experience – show them that you won’t be a burden and that you are ready to hit the ground running and interested in contributing to the team, while learning about the business. Finally, be prepared to take a hit in salary as opposed to the prorated BB SA salaries you all probably know about – remember, it’s just a few months, but the payoff can be huge for the next few years – plus, some money and strong experience is better than no money or relevant experience if you end up finding nothing of quality.
Boutique P/E
So, you weren’t able to find a solid internship opportunity anywhere in IB – where to go now. While many people assume that finding something in P/E would be harder than landing anything in IB, that’s not always the case. You need to explore all of your options and I know of at least a few people that found P/E internships, but couldn’t land IB internships. It’s all about finding the opportunities, and since P/E is often the next step after IB, the skill set you will acquire as a P/E intern will definitely be applicable to IB – so don’t simply jump to back office opportunities just yet.
Consulting and Corporate Development
While IB and P/E go hand-in-hand, there are other opportunities that call on the same skill sets, are very competitive, and will definitely help to enhance your resume ahead of FT IB recruiting. Among these opportunities you will find two very solid avenues in consulting and corporate development. Both of these opportunities are seen as front office roles and are quite competitive in nature. Furthermore, the analytical aspects of the position and attention to detail required definitely stand out as interesting and relevant to investment bankers. With either of these positions, the biggest challenge here will be in convincing IB interviewers (next year, when applying for FT positions) that you are indeed interested in IB and not one of the other two fields (whichever field you land the internship in, that is). Essentially, you will be undoubtedly faced with the “why banking and not consulting/corp development” question during your interview and will be expected to have an answer that highlights your interest in banking without: 1) disparaging the previous position or 2) stating that you pretty much had no other options.
Sales and Trading
On a similar level to Consulting and Corporate Development (as it relates to the level of appeal the position has to bankers) is Sales and Trading. By sales and trading I am not referring to dime-a-dozen prop shops in NYC, but rather S&T internships with BBs and the like – often rotational programs and opportunities to work on S&T desks generally running some simple modeling and working on pitch books. Since S&T requires an analytical skill set, interest in the markets, attention to detail and is highly competitive in terms of earning an opportunity, S&T is often the internship chosen among students who do not land IB internships their junior year, and those who ultimately pursue IB FT the following year. Furthermore, although IB and S&T are quite different, many people often see them as quite similar (for a variety of reasons) and pursue S&T as an intern to test the waters, only to decide that IB is indeed the path for them (or at least that S&T is not the path for them).
The BIG issue here will be in convincing interviewers next year, when applying for FT IB, that you are interested in IB only, or at least much more so than S&T. Since S&T and IB go hand-in-hand (at least in terms of eager and aspiring student BB applications), it is essential that you are prepared to answer not only why IB, but also why not S&T – again, without attacking S&T in the process. If you can do this and do it well, S&T can definitely be a solid internship to keep you on the competitive footing for FT IB recruiting. That said, S&T is also very competitive, so don’t assume that you will be able to walk in an S&T interview and land the job much easier than an IB internship position – in short, always bring your “A” game.
Operations/Mid Office
While mid and back office often get the short end of the stuck and take a fair share of abuse, the opportunities can still be very solid and can definitely offer resume-building experience (especially when the alternative is no experience at all – being a waiter or salesperson at a shopping mall doesn’t count as relevant experience). Depending on whether you are working back office at a BB or at an independent corporation (a F500 company, for example), will determine what kind of experience you get. One of my first internships was a back office role with a F500 company and although I spent a lot of my time doing accounting work, checking budgets, etc, I also spent some time on more interesting projects including a few cannibalization studies and promotional event analyses – not earth-shattering by any means, but definitely looked decent on the resume, gave me an opportunity to work in both excel and powerpoint and was more interesting than most of my other work. In short – don’t assume that a BO position will be completely useless and that you will not learn anything or do anything even remotely interesting. There are definitely worse opportunities to take on than an operations/control position for a summer. Any internship is what you make of it, and just as with any other opportunity, work towards taking on as much responsibility and interesting projects as you can and try to meet as many people as possible – especially if working in a BB.
The one caveat, just as with S&T and consulting, is that you will need to prove that you are interested in operations (or at least fake it well). Although back office isn’t as competitive as front office, back office as a whole is known to have a bit of a chip on their shoulder when it comes to very talented young individuals who do have exposure to IB and S&T opportunities. They know that they are often the back-up and don’t like it. So while you might know that IB is for you, you definitely don’t want the interviewers to get that same impression. Learn about the position and sell your interest in it – again, an operations internship is definitely better than nothing.
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Once again, nice article. What about a summer finance position in a F100? How likely can I leverage this for a FT IB offer?
Also, do you happen to know anything about these F100 finance positions? (compensation, any exit opps if any?…etc) How do they compare with Big 4 for instance?
A finance position with a F100 company can definitely help to strengthen your resume and make you more marketable to FT IB positions. The issue again is really in what you will be doing – will it be purely BO ops stuff, or will there be some more interesting aspects of the position as well. Regarding compensation, etc – that I do not know, nor do I know exactly how they compare with Big 4 opportunities. I can, however, say that if the Big 4 position is in an advisory group, then I would probably go Big 4. If, however, the Big 4 position is in the audit group, then I would go with the F100 finance position.
How about a hedge fund summer internship?
Thanks in advance.
Depends on the fund and on your role in the team – if it’s mainly administrative, it won’t be nearly as helpful as other more analytically demanding opportunities. That said, something is definitely better than nothing.
The fund has 1.5 billion AUM and it’s a tiger cub hedge fund, and they told me I would be modeling and doing some analyst work. They also told me they do work with the bulge bracket banks, so I’m hoping to be able to network. Also, I’m a sophomore. Does that sound good? Once again, thanks in advance.
In general, it sounds good. As a soph, especially if you can do some networking and do some modeling (even though it won’t be banker-style modeling in the general sense it is still strong experience), it is a great opportunity. Congratulations and make the most of it.
How about a business development and investor relations internship at a start up company? I currently work part time and have an option of doing a paid internship. Some things I got to do: negotiate technology licensing deals with CEO’s of other smaller firms (lead negotiator), prepare private placement memoranda, develop financial projections for investors, and perform capital structure analysis for the CEO. The company is valued at about $4MM, and has five employees and about seven or eight other interns.
Would this kind of experience be considered competitive for full-time BB recruiting in the fall? I spent the entire year networking with analysts and associates at major BB and MM firms, but did not get a single interview because of somewhat low GPA.
On the surface, the experience sounds pretty solid, as far as internships go – the more reputable the company and the bigger the name, the better the experience will look on the resume. That said, strong experience (modeling, documentation drafting, etc), definitely helps to offset a lack of firm pedigree. In your case, if you can point to some concrete examples and experience, it can definitely help you in terms of recruiting. It will not, however, completely offset a poor GPA. In other words, the experience sounds pretty solid, but you will still contend with the difficulties of breaking in with a poor GPA (I’m not sure of the school you attend, but if it is not a target, you will face a slightly greater uphill battle as well).
I’m studying engineering at a midwestern state school with a top 5 BBA program. The engineering program is very reputable as well. My GPA is just over 3.0 and I break out the grades for all the finance and accounting courses I took (5 courses) and that is a 3.7.
Great Article! I just had a quick GPA question, what is considered better for investment banking and business school, a top (3.8-4.0) GPA from a non-target school or a so-so (2.9-3.1) GPA from a target school? Say in this case the target school is UC Berkeley or UCLA and the non target is UC Santa Barbara or UC Irvine.
^^HF’s are BETTER THAN IBANKING. IBANKING IS THE OLD BEST THING SINCE HEDGE FUNDS CAME ALONG (IBANKING=LESS PAY +MORE HOURS).
Strong engineering programs often come with a bit of relaxation on GPA constraints since when it comes to this program, a 3.5 GPA is strong. That said, unless you double major, you can’t really call on your accounting courses as a standalone GPA (5 courses isn’t much as well). With a GPA above 3.0 you aren’t completely screwed, but you will definitely face an uphill battle.
Generally speaking, I would say a “so-so” GPA from a target school is better than a good GPA from a non-target. That said, 1) the 2 target schools you listed are more semi-target (although closer to target on the west coast, so I guess it also depends where you want to work) schools and, more importantly, 2) a “so-so” GPA in my opinion is not a 2.9-31, it is more like a 3.3-3.5 – in other words, a decent GPA, but nothing outstanding. With a 2.9 GPA, you are definitely in the bad range. So breaking the 2.9 out of the range, a 3.0-3.1 is still troublesome, but definitely stronger than a 2.9. I would stick with the target school, but definitely try to get your GPA up to at least a 3.2-3.3 to really get into the decent range.
I can’t argue with much of that – most bankers want to ultimately land at a HF or P/E shop and many would jump at the opportunity to go into a decent HF over a good BB out of U grad. It’s all about what the person is interested in though.
Hi,
I very much like your post. It’s good to have a clear overview on all the options and how they are ranked by a real banker.I graduated magna cum laude in a very good continental EU business school. I wasn’t really aware too much on the tricks in applying for IB and I took on a job in the finance/accounting division (BO) of a BB bank in London, which I like very much. My question: how are these kind of rotational programs looked at in the industry and what do you think are career prospects for this position?
Many Thanks
Chris